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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    Why should he.. ? Wake me up if Modiji utters one word about China in his address
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    In issues of WAR, Ekla chalo is what India wants too.. That's what Jaishankar has been saying all along, that India does not seek blocks or treaty allies.. So, why the heartburn?? Did US abandon India, after India became a treaty ally ?
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    Two things here : 1. For all the talk of autonomous EU military capability by Germany or France.. whenever snubbed by the US, no major EU power plans to spend serious money into developing an EU military. Independent EU military capability and the doctrine to deploy it from various national...
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    There was this big fight between US and French during Iraq invasion in 2003.. Americans renamed French fries to Freedom fries .. But, ultimately they will make up.. :bplease: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_fries
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    And France is an Indo pacific nation.. with Huge EEZ and lots of islands in the Pacific.. The UK is not..
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    I think, all the unprecedented action taken by France is to ensure that there is a cost to America if it wants to sabotage prospects of the French defence industry.. I guess even the vitriol directed towards the rafale deal from front organisations like Mediapart had American backing..
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    AS P 75 I is delayed what we should do is use the opportunity to negotiate with France, another 3 more advanced scorpene class submarines with good ToT..
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    Sorry confused Virginia class with an SSBN.. Still considering that these subs secure an SSBN on deterrence patrol, they are still too important a strategic asset..
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    Include the aussies as well.. When is France recalling Ambassador from UK ..Lol Buddhau Biden
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    Wow.. that escalated quickly.. For all the European hopes that Biden would be a more Euro sensitive president, we see that Biden is actually accelerating the America first trend which started with Trump presidency.. France recalls its ambassadors to the US and Australia over new national...
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    B-21s would be important. But, they are not even close to how important the Virginia class submarine is to the US. The credibility of US second strike capability is almost completely dependent on the Virginia class submarines, and these subs will be the best subs that America will field for the...
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    One doubt that irks me.. Assuming the SSNs patrol along with Indian SSBNs to set up a defensive perimeter during a deterrence patrol.. And if Russia has installed some kind of locator on the Akula SSNs that it has leased India., then India will end up giving up the approximate location of our...
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    Please, let's leave our supposed moral superiority out of this..
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    And what is this typical Indian Randi rona that nobody allies with us, when it is we who make it damn clear to everyone that we don't want to ally with them... By ally I mean a treaty ally..
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    Do you even pay attention to Jaishankar's statements.. He goes to great lengths to say that QUAD is not and will not be a military alliance... India is into appeasing China as much as Australia..
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    Why blame Biden.. India has always been harping time and again, that the QUAD is not a military grouping and not directed against China.. Jaishankar regularly sings the "QUAD will never be NATO" Song..
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    Whether the QUAD becomes a military alliance or not is a separate question.. The AUKUS POKUS does not bring any additional Military capabilities to the table for the US.. The countries involved are already treaty allies of the US, who always have fought together..
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    The Five eyes maybe creating a separate Anglo Saxon alliance.. But, all of the countries in 5 eyes are treaty allies of the US.. so I don't know how AUKUS helps..
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    I guess.. ultimate dream of US is to station a couple of Indian brigades in Taiwan ( along with US and Japanese soldiers) to try and thwart successful landings long enough.. for allied navies to react..
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    QUAD; The Concert of Democracies for Trade, Security & Diplomacy

    How about Second hand Virginia class submarine.. Maybe introduce a new bill in Congress..
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