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  1. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    NEW DELHI: The Russian government has chosen Anil Ambani's Pipavav shipyard for a 'Make in India' naval frigate order that is likely to exceed $3 billion, making it the private sector's biggest-ever warship-building project. With public sector shipyards tied up in executing current orders and...
  2. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    A collective decision was taken to drop Kaveri from the Tejas program. DRDO is not an organization which takes kindly to such things as we have seen how they fought for Arjun. But everyone agreed to delink it from Tejas program. IIRC they are yet to find wars to shed about 200 kgs from the...
  3. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    @vram, agree with all your points. But fact remains that TODAY because of lack of any foresight, planning as well as may be willful negligence we didn't expand our capabilities except for MDL which is being expanded. Even with MDLs expanded capabilities, we require more ships than it will be...
  4. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    Coz its not up to scratch
  5. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    How come we have not produced Kaveri yet?
  6. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    Let me just talk about a couple of days back on how private industry can pick up. On my flight back to India from Taiwan, I met an Indian rivet manufacturer who has invested in advanced machinery and how he is supplying rivets to bearing manufacturers and also to defence industry. He told me how...
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    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    The "nut" is an example to show what's happening. The single crystal technology of engine represents the kind of advance research India lacks. You have to come out to see what's happening in the industrial sector. I know what's what. I also know that given the right policies, Indian...
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    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    It's not as simple as that. We lack many critical manufacturing technology and capability. We had to start to invest in such things 20-30 years back with adequate support. We would have seen a different picture today. Lack of political will (stemming of ops to take bribe from imports) is one of...
  9. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    Agree that we need our own production. But criticizing imports of today for the forces for overall lack of both capability and capacity of today due to a variety of reasons certainly does not help. What is the armed forces doing to support and encourage Indian manufacturing and develop...
  10. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    And the reason is no one paid attention to domestic set up. We will keep fighting over this while armed forces will be left with no weapons to fight. Political will as well as support from the armed forces has to come. Till then we will keep facing these issues.
  11. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    Kunal what I have said is nothing new from me. I have always said this. But the point in this thread was why Talwar right now from Russia and I offered by reasons.
  12. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    Kunal, kolkata class is being shared by MDL and GRSE. If you don't have enough dry docks, how will you make more ships? I am with you for local manufacturing and I am a proponent of the indigenous defence manufacturing. I am only addressing current problems and why India has to order the...
  13. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    Capacity will never be idle. We need more capacity. India's requirement is growing. 125 ships is not a "phase". Its a continuous process.
  14. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    Again same question, where will the capacity come from? MDL making Shivaliks, Kolkatas, Scorpenes. GRSE making Mamortas, Kolkatas. Modernization and expansion of capacity required or utilize the two private shipyards who can produce the ships. In the interim, we have to buy to cover for...
  15. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    Naval Typhoon does not exist. QE costs over $7 billion. 30 naval Typhoons if developed would cost $3 billion at the very least. QE to be complimented with F-35s
  16. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    Who said QE costs $3billion with naval Typhoon (if any existed)?
  17. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    India knows how to make surface ships and does not have spare capacity to make more. India did not know how to make subs so France had to make them in India so that India could learn how to make subs :D
  18. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    Pipavav has recently tied up with a British company. Pipavav has good infrastructure in their yard.
  19. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    Pipavav is an option but thanks to govt indifference to any private sector manufacturing a complete platform, pipavav is stuck to making commercial ships. Ditto with LnT. We have discussed about these two yards many times.
  20. Yusuf

    More Talwar Class for Indian Navy

    GRSE is going to share the making of 15B. Many projects beset with delays is not a conspiracy to stall projects so that we can order from abroad. Delays are inevitable in India while we are looking to enforce monetary penalties on delays from Russia. I have been to MDL. Although a couple or so...
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