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We don't have F-16s yet. Those encircled roundels are Dutch AF roundel.

That's a Dutch aerobatics F-16.

Turkey Seeks 40 New F-16 Jets from U.S. even as Row Over S-400 Continues https://www.defenseworld.net/news/30578/Turkey_Seeks_40_New_F_16_Jets_from_U_S__even_as_Row_Over_S_400_Continues#.YWJSKlMRUwA

I'm surprised to know that VISTA is still in service... https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41779/f-16-testbed-becomes-an-x-plane-ahead-of-work-on-air-forces-skyborg-ai-computer-brain

What you're trying to say is very hypothetical for we do not know if the French will give us favorable pricing for Rafale since unlike India we do not intend to buy more than 12 fighters and our defense sector and purchases is well below that of India.

The 2016 Rafale rough purchase price (based on 2007 or 2015 USD?) is $244M/unit. The Philippine F-16 purchase (based on 2020 or 2021 USD) is $202M/unit.

This comparison of IAF Rafale versus Philippine F-16 purchases are very rough estimates purely on program costs, the details of which are totally known. The Swiss on the other hand compared the F-35 against Rafale based on concrete figures. And unless you want to claim that the F-16 is more...

Do the math, Indian purchase of 36 Rafales (in 2016) was valued at $8.8B while Philippines' planned purchase for 12 F-16's (in 2021) is valued at $2.43B... Note that Philippine infrastructure to support MRFs, F-16 in particular, is non-existent, while the IAF has established structures that...

So what is the actual and real per unit (fly away) cost of Rafales sold to the IAF? You might be so high up in the chain of command that you have access to the actual figures which are usually confidential information for obvious reasons. As to our F-16 acquisition, well I'm just a simple...

There's simply no way Rafale's per unit (fly away) price will be lower than the F-16. The sheer volume of F-16s produced at 4,600+ alone versus Rafale's 200+ is a good indicator of their per unit prices. Even F-35, which still has to match F-16's vilume to date, is found to be cheaper than...

We have the "Law of the Sea" that your country has ratified (thus bound itself) on our side versus your doubtful records.

I wonder why China did not submit that "written record" to UNCLOS tribunal... :bplease: Qnd talking about ancient records, it's a fact that the Philippines is far from China in this field. As a matter of fact there was no Philippines as we know it in ancient tomes as the country was a...

There's no proof of who exactly discovered it first. Note that these reefs are closer to our main island so most likely our ancient fishermen discovered it first. More impirtantlt, China's "manufactured map" was tossed out by UNCLOS for being bogus. As to UNCLOS, China ratified it so it's bound...

First, those are not islands in the legal definition. Therefore, not being islands they do not produce baselines under UNCLOS. The baselines are from our main islands. So the 200 mile EEZ shall be drawn from our main islands while China's EEZ is from China's mainland. These militarized reefs...

All contested areas are very near an airfield from our mainland. That's how ridiculous China's claims are.

F-16 is cheaper to purchase and maintain. And we don't need to fly far away to defend our country.

You'll never know the complete packages of these orders. But the F-35 on a per unit (flyaway) cost basis is already cheaper than most 4th or 4+ gen fighters. LM and the F-35 program management just needs to bring down sustainment cost.

That's not flyaway cost. That $2.5B is the entire program cost, aircraft+ trainings+simulators+maintenance+parts+weapons+sensors+ground infrastructures. But we do not know tge actual break down yet.

Looks like the Philippine Air Force will get 12 F-16Block70/72s. https://www.defensenews.com/global/the-americas/2021/06/25/philippines-gets-approved-for-f-16-missile-buy-worth-over-2-billion/

What this exercise is telling you is that it's very hard to shoot down a target at more than 100 miles. In fact most successful missile shots will be inside 100 kms., which I think (guess) is within AIM120D's NEZ. That's why stealth is a game changer as it can get closer to 4th gen without being...