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Fair one ;)

IIRC T64 was only ever issued to Russian and E German units. T72 for export? T80 improved on them all and then came T90. Years spent looking at track/wheel layouts, fume extractors and where the snorkel lay ;)

T-90 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia T84 comes from the T80: T-80 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Responding to the wrong point, mods please delete

If it was clear we'd both have about five lower post counts. Actually, I was talking on your MBT thread and a Mod moved it here.

In a nutshell then you don't know what it's made of and supposing (I'll give you educated) what it is made of, but you're unsure. Why didn't you say so in the first place?

Justify these two statements then: Seems to me you think you know what it is and on closer examination say you're not really sure.

I thought you were ignoring me? changing your mind again? Err you said; Hmm, I wish. Get back to your PS3 little boy

Actually I was answering a point by Damian. You jumped onto my conversation with him Euro Boy so take your trolling dirge elsewhere. I would do normally, but now I've got your back up I think I'll stay. What part of the euro do you hail from? One of the saviour northern or flailing...

You portray the flag of a socialist utopia that is a waste of money and resources and ignores the 'will of the people' who did not want what was signed in Lisbon. It speaks volumes to me. Of course it's biased :rolleyes: Why would I want to discuss the M60. Britain doesn't and hasn't used...

Re: Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Nationality effects everything and your portrayal of the EU socialist utopia says a lot to me Oh dear. Hit a nerve has it? I stated a fact ie that C2 has only ever been 'killed' by another C2. You can hang as many fancy bells and whistles on your...

Re: Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) F#ck me, every day is indeed a school day. Thank you.

Re: Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) It's called security. Why on earth would you tell the insurgents that using 'xyz' will get you a 'kill' on a C2? Now if C2's were getting knocked out all of the time by the latest generation of RPG's, they would be upping the armour on them. C2 isn't in Afg...

Re: Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Every day is indeed a school day. However, I am talking about kills rather than mobility kills. With IED's, if you can get one to throw a warrior in the air, it's not good. Thinking more along the lines of tank v tank and Inf v tank( and yes RIP lads)

I don't know about that, bagged ammo would be cheaper to develop for a smooth bore than developing our own rifled gun. Bagged ammo has a number of advantages, particularly in a CBRN environment ie not having to open a hatch to throw the cases out. Horses for courses imo and if enough money is...

Re: Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) I agree, at 70+ tons that is too much as C2 was designed at 62. That's always the problem, crew protection and the vehicle should be designed with 'add on' armour weight in mind. As you say, there are lighter and just as good defensive systems out there...

I do and I agree with you on rifled guns in any case. We can't afford to develop and build a new rifled gun on our own so why not go COTs or go in with other nations on a new one. If you want 'beyond the horizon' kills, go for something like a missile or artillery. Anything over 4.7km is a...

I'm not saying the TC isn't the man responsible, the person in charge. However, most Brit tanks are not commanded by high ranking officers. There's only 1 x Lt Col in a Regt, about 5 Majors and so on. A troop normally has one Jr officer and three SNCO's. The TC would say T62 at 5km, engage...

Re: Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) I've lost that video feed, just disappeared but seemed the Cdr on that occasion was the CO of QRIH. The gunner who as you know aims and fires was an 18 year old. Brit tanks, as I said above are normally commanded by SNCO's and Jnr Officers.

Re: Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) The old Challnger 1 is credited with the longest range tank kill and Brit tanks are not commanded by high ranking officers. Normally a Senior NCO or a young commissioned officer. The gunner was 18 at the time apparently. Everything else I pretty much...