Iron Dome - Israel's gamechanger

[JAYRAM]

 

[arya]

well that look great in pics..

 

[The Messiah]

Our's will be better

 

[pack leader]

It costs $60,000 for each Iron Dome load. How long until IDF is bankrupt?

jet full for a single Gaza air attack is 20000$ (bomb and maintenance for air plane aside )
and for the record Israel is in far better economic shape then your beloved France

 

[p2prada]

Wow. 80% efficiency in an actual operational scenario is great. 60K is nothing if an entire salvo can save even one life.

 

[Armand2REP]

jet full for a single Gaza air attack is 20000$ (bomb and maintenance for air plane aside )
and for the record Israel is in far better economic shape then your beloved France

So it makes more financial sense to bomb the launch site preventing dozens of rockets than spending millions to stop the same thing with Iron Dome. Israel is a US welfare state so hardly comparable to World Power France.

 

[indian_sukhoi]

It costs $60,000 for each Iron Dome load. How long until IDF is bankrupt?

Actually its still a cost effective solution!!

Far better option to spend 60k on each missile rather sustaining human looses and property damage.

Firstly, Iron Dome will not engage every single rocket of what Hezbollah and others firing on them. The Radar first detect and projects its location where it hit, Then will intercept the missile if needed.


Atmost, Hamza fire their rockets pointing towards the enemy location (Israel Territory)

Most of the Hezbollah Rocket Force consists of Katuysha and Qasam rockets. They fired hundreds of those with no target guidance, Only few could land near populated areas. Besides, Iron Dome is deployed only near strategic locations like Urban areas and Oil Refineries. Saves lot of money and time rather evacuating residents from thier home.



Iron Dome should be a short term solution not a long term one. Its just a matter to time, When the militia come up with better guided rockets and in numbers.

jet full for a single Gaza air attack is 20000$ (bomb and maintenance for air plane aside )
and for the record Israel is in far better economic shape then your beloved France

Correct me if iam wrong, IDF already placed weapon locators alongside the border. Heck, They could co-ordinate the location from where the rockets have been launched.

Rather readying a squadron of aircrafts, would be more cheaper to keep a Apache Heli wiht hellfire on stand by. Gunships takes less operational cost and readiness.

AFAIK, There are no MANPADs threat too

 

[Armand2REP]

The cheapest option would be placing counter-battery fire.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

The cheapest option would be placing counter-battery fire.

Are Israelis allowed to shoot back?:shocked:

 

[sob]

Are Israelis allowed to shoot back?:shocked:

You would have amnesty and their friends hounding the Israelis followed by resolution introduced in UN condemning Israel.

 

[pack leader]

So it makes more financial sense to bomb the launch site preventing dozens of rockets than spending millions to stop the same thing with Iron Dome. Israel is a US welfare state so hardly comparable to World Power France.

France was a world power not anymore with enormous debt aging population and massive Islamic immigration
France is part off the European death spiral
Israel with 5% average growth young population and a large IT industry will never go bankrupt

BTW : American aid is strictly military and consists only of 1% of Israeli GDP (and we are grateful for that )

 

[pack leader]

You would have amnesty and their friends hounding the Israelis followed by resolution introduced in UN condemning Israel.

people who take money from corrupt Saudi princes should keep their mouth shut

 

[sob]

people who take money from corrupt Saudi princes should keep their mouth shut

Whom would you be referring to

 

[pack leader]

Whom would you be referring to

hrw amnesty international the whole gang
they made a deal with Saudis to focus only on Israel and ignore intro Arab atrocities in exchange for cash

 

[W.G.Ewald]

You would have amnesty and their friends hounding the Israelis followed by resolution introduced in UN condemning Israel.

Exactly right.

 

[indian_sukhoi]

Are Israelis allowed to shoot back?:shocked:

The cheapest option would be placing counter-battery fire.

What we are looking at an single individual rocket launcher platform firing from different locations. Qassam and Katyusha rockets are easy to fire, very good at Shoot-and-scoot!!


The apparent aim is to provoke israel into retaliating, Will only make waring Palestinians factions into re-uniting against Israel.

The Hamas fire these missile from populated areas. Best way to prevent these attacks, Is by Intel. Gather much information on rockets safehouse, when conflict break destroy them before launched.



Pictures - Qassam rocket

A Qassam rocket is displayed in Sderot town hall against a background of pictures of residents killed in rocket attacks

 

[Zebra]

U.S. Attaches Strings to Israeli Iron Dome Funds

Apr. 30, 2012 - 10:39AM |
By BARBARA OPALL-ROME

TEL AVIV — Defense and industry leaders here are discovering that even in a U.S. election year — when bipartisan and bicameral support for Israel is at its peak — some American gift packages still come tied with strings.

In exchange for $680 million for Israel's Iron Dome short-range rocket defense system, Washington wants "appropriate rights" to the Israeli-developed technology and U.S.-based coproduction of the system's high-speed intercepting missiles.

According to language included in the House Armed Services strategic forces subcommittee's markup for the 2013 defense authorization bill, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta may provide up to $680 million to Israel for Iron Dome procurement over the next 29 months.

The proposed funding, when combined with the $205 million authorized and appropriated under 2011 legislation, brings U.S. taxpayer investment in the operationally proven Israeli system to nearly $900 million. "Yet the United States has no rights to the technology involved," the committee noted.

As a means of leveraging this investment, House authorizers require the director of the Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency (MDA) to establish a joint Iron Dome program office to formalize long-term cooperation.

"The committee believes the Director should ensure, prior to disbursing additional funds on Iron Dome, that the United States has appropriate rights to this technology, as is consistent with prior U.S.-Israel missile defenses cooperation," according to the panel's authorization bill markup.

House authorizers also want MDA "to explore any opportunity to enter into co-production of the Iron Dome system with Israel, in light of the significant U.S. investment in this system."

In interviews here and in Washington, government sources say the Pentagon is pushing for similar caveats in markups to come from Senate authorizers as well as appropriators from both houses of Congress. The House defense appropriations markup is expected in the first half of May while the Senate version is expected at the end of June.

Israel has deployed three Iron Dome batteries and a fourth is in final stages of acceptance testing with the Israel Air Force's Air Defense Command. The first two batteries were funded by Israel's shekel-based defense budget while the $205 million appropriated by Congress last year were used to fund the third and fourth batteries as well as two additional batteries now being produced by an Israeli industrial team led by state-owned Rafael.

Israeli sources say the proposed $680 million in additional funding will cover another four complete Iron Dome batteries, which include an Eltamultimission radar, Iron Dome launchers, Tamir interceptors and the system's command-and-control unit.

In an Israeli Independence Day address on April 26, Defense Minister Ehud Barak raised "the initiative of the Pentagon, with the approval of the White House and with bipartisan support in Congress, to legislate additional aid to enable Israel to deploy 10 batteries and thousands of interceptors of the Iron Dome."

Barak did not make reference to the stings that Washington is attaching to its support of Iron Dome, a system which he has repeatedly referred to as "the fruit of Israel's indigenous defense industry."

U.S. Attaches Strings to Israeli Iron Dome Funds | Defense News | defensenews.com

 

[Son of Govinda]

US giving Israel $70 million more for Iron Dome

The Associated Press: US giving Israel $70 million more for Iron Dome

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. plans to give Israel the extra $70 million that Jerusalem asked for this year for short-range missile defense, officials said Thursday.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said President Barack Obama had directed him to fill Israel's request for the extra money for the Iron Dome system, designed to intercept short-range rockets and mortars.

The U.S. already has provided $205 million for the system and annually gives Israel roughly another $3.1 billion in overall security assistance, the most for any foreign country.

Panetta met Thursday morning with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak, then issued a statement saying he had told Barak of the U.S. intention to provide the additional help for Iron Dome.

"My goal is to ensure Israel has the funding it needs each year to produce these batteries that can protect its citizens," the statement said. "That is why going forward over the next three years, we intend to request additional funding for Iron Dome, based on an annual assessment of Israeli security requirements against an evolving threat."

The funding requires congressional approval and is likely to get it.

"Iron Dome is a game changer, saving lives and providing increased security to innocent Israelis who for too long have been terrorized by random Palestinian terrorist rocket attacks," said Rep. Howard Berman of California, the top Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

"At every turn — Democrats and Republicans, this administration and the Netanyahu government — we all have walked in lockstep to achieve these results together," Berman said in a statement, calling Israeli security " an American imperative."

 

[LurkerBaba]

Israel's Iron Dome intercepts a barrage rockets launched from Gaza

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