New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

Which Contender`s Rifle has more chances of winning than others?


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Bas karo!!
Yar ab to deliver kardo yar!
Wahi na, isko jawano ko sikhne me mushkil se ek ya do din ka waqt jayega bas

Khas kar RR walon ko, bhai sahab mera BA khatam hojayega june tak sab sahi raha to, inhone rifle tab bhi nai deni.
Factory to tab lagayi thi jab mai 10 th me tha
 
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Isko dekho aur...bas dekhte hi raho, kyon ki uske alawa aur kar hi kya sakte ho
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Indo-Russia Rifles
Indo-Russia Rifles Private Limited
(IRRPL) is a rifle-manufacturing facility in Korwa, Amethi district in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh. The factory will manufacture the AK-200 variant of the Kalashnikov family of rifles. The factory is a joint-venture of the Ordnance Factory Board of India and Kalashnikov Concern of Russia, with Rosoboronexport holding a minority stake and will produce 750,000 AK-203, a 7.62×39mm variant from the AK-100 family.[1]

Ownership[edit]
The factory is a joint venture between three companies. The Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) owns the controlling stakes of 50.5% while Kalashnikov owns 42% stake followed by 7.5% stake owned by Rosonboronexport. An Indian CEO from the Indian Army leads the company.[2] The Army has appointed Major General Sanjeev Sengar as the Chief Executive Officer.[

Background[edit]
Since the late 1950s, the Indian armed forces had been equipped with a locally produced licensed copy[4] of the L1A1 self-loading rifles.[5] In mid-1980s, the decision was taken to develop a 5.56×45mm NATO calibre rifle to replace the obsolete rifles. Trials on various prototypes based on the AKM were carried out by the Armament Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) in Pune. On the completion of the trial, The Indian Small Arms System (INSAS) was adopted in 1990, becoming the standard issue assault rifle of the Indian infantry. However, to phase out the still in use bolt-action Lee–Enfield rifles as quickly as possible, India had to acquire 100,000 7.62×39mm AKM-type rifles from Russia, Hungary, Romania and Israel in 1990–92.[6]

The INSAS was initially built with features borrowed from several different rifles and was not made to meet the specific requirements of the Indian security forces. This amalgamated design while serving the Army for over 30 years, has started to fall behind the needs of modern warfare.[7] In recent years the rifle has come under increasing scrutiny, with several issues, surfacing from frontline forces that have inhibited operational capabilities. For example, the plastic magazine of the rifle has repeatedly cracked under cold weather conditions and has reportedly even overheated during long battles leading to malfunctions, making it an unreliable choice for a standard issue rifle.[8] It has been observed that militants in Kashmir are drugged which leads to them being capable of taking a 5.56×45mm bullet and still being able to fight. Thats why the army is now using AK variants in Kashmir. Due to these repeated downfalls, In April 2015, the Indian government even had to replace some INSAS rifles of the CRPF with AKM variants to ensure greater success in the CRPF's fight against Naxalites.[9] Therefore, owing to these failures and the changing needs of the armed forces, it was announced in early 2017 that the INSAS rifles would be retired and replaced by a weapon capable of firing the larger 7.62×51mm NATO cartridges.[10]

As part of the replacement process, the new Kalashnikov rifle was to be made in a joint venture production facility located in Amethi, Uttar Pradesh.[11] The factory manufactures the AK-203 variant of the Kalashnikov family of rifles, which along with the SIG716, manufactured by United States-based SIG Sauer will replace the INSAS rifles as well as the AK-47s.[12] The first batch of 10,000 SIG Sauer rifles were delivered in December 2019.[13]

Product[edit]
The IRRPL has been licensed to produce 750,000 AK-203 assault rifles chambered for 7.62×39mm. The AK-203 is a modernized 200 series AK-103 variant and one of the modern derivatives of the Russian AK-Pattern series of assault rifles. The 200 series are technically based on the AK-100 family and the more expensive AK-12 rifle family.[14] The AK-203 is reported as the newest version of the AK-47 assault rifle.[15]

During the Defence Expo 2020 in Lucknow, Major General Sengar announced that the IRRPL facility in Amethi would produce 75,000 AK-203 annually for 10 years.

It was announced that 670,000 AK-203 rifles will be produced for the Indian military.[16] Production of the AK-203 started on January 2023.
 

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Indo-Russia Rifles
Indo-Russia Rifles Private Limited
(IRRPL) is a rifle-manufacturing facility in Korwa, Amethi district in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh. The factory will manufacture the AK-200 variant of the Kalashnikov family of rifles. The factory is a joint-venture of the Ordnance Factory Board of India and Kalashnikov Concern of Russia, with Rosoboronexport holding a minority stake and will produce 750,000 AK-203, a 7.62×39mm variant from the AK-100 family.[1]

Ownership[edit]
The factory is a joint venture between three companies. The Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) owns the controlling stakes of 50.5% while Kalashnikov owns 42% stake followed by 7.5% stake owned by Rosonboronexport. An Indian CEO from the Indian Army leads the company.[2] The Army has appointed Major General Sanjeev Sengar as the Chief Executive Officer.[

Background[edit]
Since the late 1950s, the Indian armed forces had been equipped with a locally produced licensed copy[4] of the L1A1 self-loading rifles.[5] In mid-1980s, the decision was taken to develop a 5.56×45mm NATO calibre rifle to replace the obsolete rifles. Trials on various prototypes based on the AKM were carried out by the Armament Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) in Pune. On the completion of the trial, The Indian Small Arms System (INSAS) was adopted in 1990, becoming the standard issue assault rifle of the Indian infantry. However, to phase out the still in use bolt-action Lee–Enfield rifles as quickly as possible, India had to acquire 100,000 7.62×39mm AKM-type rifles from Russia, Hungary, Romania and Israel in 1990–92.[6]

The INSAS was initially built with features borrowed from several different rifles and was not made to meet the specific requirements of the Indian security forces. This amalgamated design while serving the Army for over 30 years, has started to fall behind the needs of modern warfare.[7] In recent years the rifle has come under increasing scrutiny, with several issues, surfacing from frontline forces that have inhibited operational capabilities. For example, the plastic magazine of the rifle has repeatedly cracked under cold weather conditions and has reportedly even overheated during long battles leading to malfunctions, making it an unreliable choice for a standard issue rifle.[8] It has been observed that militants in Kashmir are drugged which leads to them being capable of taking a 5.56×45mm bullet and still being able to fight. Thats why the army is now using AK variants in Kashmir. Due to these repeated downfalls, In April 2015, the Indian government even had to replace some INSAS rifles of the CRPF with AKM variants to ensure greater success in the CRPF's fight against Naxalites.[9] Therefore, owing to these failures and the changing needs of the armed forces, it was announced in early 2017 that the INSAS rifles would be retired and replaced by a weapon capable of firing the larger 7.62×51mm NATO cartridges.[10]

As part of the replacement process, the new Kalashnikov rifle was to be made in a joint venture production facility located in Amethi, Uttar Pradesh.[11] The factory manufactures the AK-203 variant of the Kalashnikov family of rifles, which along with the SIG716, manufactured by United States-based SIG Sauer will replace the INSAS rifles as well as the AK-47s.[12] The first batch of 10,000 SIG Sauer rifles were delivered in December 2019.[13]

Product[edit]
The IRRPL has been licensed to produce 750,000 AK-203 assault rifles chambered for 7.62×39mm. The AK-203 is a modernized 200 series AK-103 variant and one of the modern derivatives of the Russian AK-Pattern series of assault rifles. The 200 series are technically based on the AK-100 family and the more expensive AK-12 rifle family.[14] The AK-203 is reported as the newest version of the AK-47 assault rifle.[15]

During the Defence Expo 2020 in Lucknow, Major General Sengar announced that the IRRPL facility in Amethi would produce 75,000 AK-203 annually for 10 years.

It was announced that 670,000 AK-203 rifles will be produced for the Indian military.[16] Production of the AK-203 started on January 2023.
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Indo-Russia Rifles Private Limited
(IRRPL) is a rifle-manufacturing facility in Korwa, Amethi district in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh. The factory will manufacture the AK-200 variant of the Kalashnikov family of rifles. The factory is a joint-venture of the Ordnance Factory Board of India and Kalashnikov Concern of Russia, with Rosoboronexport holding a minority stake and will produce 750,000 AK-203, a 7.62×39mm variant from the AK-100 family.[1]

Ownership[edit]
The factory is a joint venture between three companies. The Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) owns the controlling stakes of 50.5% while Kalashnikov owns 42% stake followed by 7.5% stake owned by Rosonboronexport. An Indian CEO from the Indian Army leads the company.[2] The Army has appointed Major General Sanjeev Sengar as the Chief Executive Officer.[

Background[edit]
Since the late 1950s, the Indian armed forces had been equipped with a locally produced licensed copy[4] of the L1A1 self-loading rifles.[5] In mid-1980s, the decision was taken to develop a 5.56×45mm NATO calibre rifle to replace the obsolete rifles. Trials on various prototypes based on the AKM were carried out by the Armament Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) in Pune. On the completion of the trial, The Indian Small Arms System (INSAS) was adopted in 1990, becoming the standard issue assault rifle of the Indian infantry. However, to phase out the still in use bolt-action Lee–Enfield rifles as quickly as possible, India had to acquire 100,000 7.62×39mm AKM-type rifles from Russia, Hungary, Romania and Israel in 1990–92.[6]

The INSAS was initially built with features borrowed from several different rifles and was not made to meet the specific requirements of the Indian security forces. This amalgamated design while serving the Army for over 30 years, has started to fall behind the needs of modern warfare.[7] In recent years the rifle has come under increasing scrutiny, with several issues, surfacing from frontline forces that have inhibited operational capabilities. For example, the plastic magazine of the rifle has repeatedly cracked under cold weather conditions and has reportedly even overheated during long battles leading to malfunctions, making it an unreliable choice for a standard issue rifle.[8] It has been observed that militants in Kashmir are drugged which leads to them being capable of taking a 5.56×45mm bullet and still being able to fight. Thats why the army is now using AK variants in Kashmir. Due to these repeated downfalls, In April 2015, the Indian government even had to replace some INSAS rifles of the CRPF with AKM variants to ensure greater success in the CRPF's fight against Naxalites.[9] Therefore, owing to these failures and the changing needs of the armed forces, it was announced in early 2017 that the INSAS rifles would be retired and replaced by a weapon capable of firing the larger 7.62×51mm NATO cartridges.[10]

As part of the replacement process, the new Kalashnikov rifle was to be made in a joint venture production facility located in Amethi, Uttar Pradesh.[11] The factory manufactures the AK-203 variant of the Kalashnikov family of rifles, which along with the SIG716, manufactured by United States-based SIG Sauer will replace the INSAS rifles as well as the AK-47s.[12] The first batch of 10,000 SIG Sauer rifles were delivered in December 2019.[13]

Product[edit]
The IRRPL has been licensed to produce 750,000 AK-203 assault rifles chambered for 7.62×39mm. The AK-203 is a modernized 200 series AK-103 variant and one of the modern derivatives of the Russian AK-Pattern series of assault rifles. The 200 series are technically based on the AK-100 family and the more expensive AK-12 rifle family.[14] The AK-203 is reported as the newest version of the AK-47 assault rifle.[15]

During the Defence Expo 2020 in Lucknow, Major General Sengar announced that the IRRPL facility in Amethi would produce 75,000 AK-203 annually for 10 years.

It was announced that 670,000 AK-203 rifles will be produced for the Indian military.[16] Production of the AK-203 started on January 2023.
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What is the real status guys ? Has even one Ak203 reached a jawan yet ? Or is it just 'defence' journalist/dalal choos doing circle jerk in their favourite newspapers
 

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Ok i heard its less than half the price of telescopic one & they just wanna spam Ak-203 in millions now... So it was decided that the old stock will serve.
Not just capital cost. It was adopted to bring down operational cost too.
 

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These will end up on the hands of RR anyway, and they'll dismount the furniture from the old rifles and stick them on these.
Why are leaving alone the whole state police force along with CAPF. Oh yeah, I forgot the forest rangers here.
 

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Ok i heard its less than half the price of telescopic one & they just wanna spam Ak-203 in millions now... So it was decided that the old stock will serve.
That is a fair point...can't argue on that.

But this also shows how we seriously lack far-sight when it comes to defense procurement. So let's assume the collapsible folding buttstock on AK-203 was expensive so we ditched that for an older folding only option...fine. Why didn't we go for an aftermarket stock?
We could have simply asked them to put an AR buffer tube instead of any stock, which incidentally would have further reduced the cost. Then in just 180 crores we would have equipped all those 6 lakh AKs with high quality Magpul stocks. Problem solved
But no...
 

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That is a fair point...can't argue on that.

But this also shows how we seriously lack far-sight when it comes to defense procurement. So let's assume the collapsible folding buttstock on AK-203 was expensive so we ditched that for an older folding only option...fine. Why didn't we go for an aftermarket stock?
We could have simply asked them to put an AR buffer tube instead of any stock, which incidentally would have further reduced the cost. Then in just 180 crores we would have equipped all those 6 lakh AKs with high quality Magpul stocks. Problem solved
But no...
Then how will you call a tender again in a year or so.
 

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These will end up on the hands of RR anyway, and they'll dismount the furniture from the old rifles and stick them on these.
I read almost 30lakh of these are coming, not just RR.
It means all that carbine drama, multi-calibre drama, 6.8 calibre drama all are finally coming to an end. Tragic heros MCIWS, P-72, Astr Defence 7.62 etc. are killed off by IA(mresh Puri). Ab arranged marriage ho raha hy...
India settles for sanskari 90's ladka Ak-103. Drop scene.
 
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AK103 has performed better than ak12 in ukraine.Solid reliable rifle.Ukraine war shows you dont need to spend much on rifles.Just stick a holosight on rails - even ak74m will do as base.Focus on arty,drones,EW.For infantry LMG,high power sniper rifles and auto grenade launchers.
 

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Will AK 203 rifle production in India get affected due to Russia and Ukraine war. Raw materials and critical components get dispruted due to ongoing crisis. Raw materials and critical components for AK 203 rifle may get delayed or stopped due to ongoing crisis.
 

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