Niger military coup d'etat removes pro France government from power

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I don't think Russian can replace West in purchasing raw Materials from African Countries.

These Afro nations are digging their own grave doing these antics.
This has to be seen like this:

Since Niger's independence in 1960, it has witnessed 4 military coups respectively in 1974, 1996, 1999 and 2010.

West Africa is a politically very volatile region.

Right now only in France’s former colonies, the military junta has captured power in Guinea, Mali, Burkina Faso, Chad, Niger and Gabon.

Since the 1990s, 78 percent of the 27 coups in Africa took place only in Francophone Africa.


The latest coup may actually fix Niger’s 2 fundamental problems:

1) It could reboot its democracy, which had been stifled by the de facto single-party system, and

2) It could also result in the creation of a more effective security policy.
 

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I don't think Russian can replace West in purchasing raw Materials from African Countries.

These Afro nations are digging their own grave doing these antics.
What do these Francophone countries have to lose ? It's not as if they were getting market prices for exporting their minerals back in the day . In fact the opposite was true . France continued exploiting them which brought issues to a head , which is why things are what they are today.

The sum total of the Russia Ukraine war is Russia telling the EU - hum toh doobe sanam , saath tumhe bhi le doobenge.

The only countries to emerge better from this conflict & its aftermath considering all dimensions viz economics , strategic power , etc are the US & China ironically.

Post this interlude we'd have the showdown in the Indo Pacific between these two over Taiwan & the issues left over from the Russo Ukraine war to be settled around the same time conflict over Taiwan breaks out , hopefully with all of NATO involved minus the US component who'd be occupied fighting the Chinese in the Indo Pacific.

As of now this is how the situation seems to be poised. We could see action in West Asia too if Iran stirs the pot around the same time as conflict breaks out in Ukraine once more & in the Indo Pacific.

From our perspective we need to be ever vigilant & watch the scene carefully. China could very well choose to test it preparedness with us towards the end of the decade before moving onto Taiwan .

That's what the US & the rest of the Quad are banking on as a war in the Himalayas if it escalates could see China in the same position as Russia is in today thereby postponing their annexation plans of Taiwan. Left unsaid is India will be in Ukraine's shoes. Our war preparations leave a lot to be desired which is one more incentive for the hubristic CCP to consider settling scores on the LAC before considering settling Taiwan.

Whichever way you dice it , we're in for a very different world order from the existing one within a couple of decades.
 

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What do these Francophone countries have to lose ? It's not as if they were getting market prices for exporting their minerals back in the day . In fact the opposite was true . France continued exploiting them which brought issues to a head , which is why things are what they are today.

The sum total of the Russia Ukraine war is Russia telling the EU - hum toh doobe sanam , saath tumhe bhi le doobenge.

The only countries to emerge better from this conflict & its aftermath considering all dimensions viz economics , strategic power , etc are the US & China ironically.

Post this interlude we'd have the showdown in the Indo Pacific between these two over Taiwan & the issues left over from the Russo Ukraine war to be settled around the same time conflict over Taiwan breaks out , hopefully with all of NATO involved minus the US component who'd be occupied fighting the Chinese in the Indo Pacific.

As of now this is how the situation seems to be poised. We could see action in West Asia too if Iran stirs the pot around the same time as conflict breaks out in Ukraine once more & in the Indo Pacific.

From our perspective we need to be ever vigilant & watch the scene carefully. China could very well choose to test it preparedness with us towards the end of the decade before moving onto Taiwan .

That's what the US & the rest of the Quad are banking on as a war in the Himalayas if it escalates could see China in the same position as Russia is in today thereby postponing their annexation plans of Taiwan. Left unsaid is India will be in Ukraine's shoes. Our war preparations leave a lot to be desired which is one more incentive for the hubristic CCP to consider settling scores on the LAC before considering settling Taiwan.

Whichever way you dice it , we're in for a very different world order from the existing one within a couple of decades.
What do these Francophone countries have to gain here?

They didn't control the market price earlier and they won't have the control over market price now either.

If you think China and Russia going to purchase on the price higher than west and forget it.

Remember these Coup are not done by civilian over Military but by Military over Civilian govt.

None of these military dictators proved to be any good for these African countries in past and nothing good they are going to do in future.
 

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People mistaking Niger flag for the Indian flag?

Their's looks quite similar to ours except that their's has a saffron circle instead of the Ashok Chakra.
That is definitely the Indian Tricolor. They are trying to drag us into their mess. The current euphoria is just a temporary phase, coup leaders are trying to earn legitimacy by riding the nationalism plank. In truth, this is just power game, one dictator being replaced by another one.

India will not act against the French interests. France is a very reliable and critical ally for India, no African nation is worth even 1%. Rumors suggest that India vetoed Algeria's inclusion into BRICS+ on behalf of France.
 

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People mistaking Niger flag for the Indian flag?

Their's looks quite similar to ours except that their's has a saffron circle instead of the Ashok Chakra.
That's Indian flag only.

Posted the screenshot also.
 

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That is definitely the Indian Tricolor. They are trying to drag us into their mess. The current euphoria is just a temporary phase, coup leaders are trying to earn legitimacy by riding the nationalism plank.
African countries are looking upto new 'Power Centres' in the world and attempting to move away from their former colonisers.

In their eyes India, China are the new superpowers.
 

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Sowwie.. the screenshot didn't load earlier.. saw the video a second time and caught it.. there's another man walking by draped in the Indian flag.
Posted in details about similar looking flags

 

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That is definitely the Indian Tricolor. They are trying to drag us into their mess. The current euphoria is just a temporary phase, coup leaders are trying to earn legitimacy by riding the nationalism plank. In truth, this is just power game, one dictator being replaced by another one.

India will not act against the French interests. France is a very reliable and critical ally for India, no African nation is worth even 1%. Rumors suggest that India vetoed Algeria's inclusion into BRICS+ on behalf of France.
India vetoing Algeria is 100% disinformation campaign , obscure site publishes tales and as usual like gossiping aunties indians start believing it

Reason why I say Indians deserve the misinformation campaigns, they themselves are the fuel, bec they want to appear too smart and too informative

As per the stupid disinformation reports, China Russia supported , south Africa neutral and reportedly India opposed , so how come Algeria didn't get included ?, there is no concept of veto in brics like in P5

Algeria is 1 of the few countries which had supported India especially on kashmir, and relations are strong without fanfare, out of usual pomp and show

As for brics Algeria will join but in the next batch , because they applied later than the others , and France has no locus standi on India Alegria relationship and vice versa, geo politics is not mohalla politics, relationship with one friendly nation cannot be tied to relationship with another friendly nation. Otherwise no nation will take you seriously, do you think India is that cheap, or do you think India is porkistan

And France had moments when it was not friendly to India, best to remember that. Nations don't play girlfriend boyfriend, and don't believe and importantly dont regurgitate disinformation campaigns
 
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India vetoing Algeria is 100% disinformation campaign , obscure site publishes tales and as usual like gossiping aunties start believing it

Reason why I say Indians deserve the misinformation campaigns

As per the stupid disinformation reports, China Russia supported , south Africa neutral and reportedly India opposed , so how come Algeria didn't get included ?, there is no concept of veto in brics

Algeria is 1 of the few countries which had supported India especially on kashmir

As for brics Algeria will join but in the next batch , but they applied later than the others , and France has no locus standi on India Alegria relationship and vice versa, geo politics is not mohalla politics, relationship with one friendly nation cannot be tied to relationship with another friendly nation. Otherwise no nation will take you seriously, do you think India is that cheap
Besides agreeing with your points on Algeria-related rumors, I still see no benefit for India in extending it's support to the military juntas. Once the current "nationalist" euphoria dies down, the general public will realize that they have been duped once again.

We can be transactional, just like we are with the current Taliban regime (Iran, Myanmar are other examples) without getting too involved.
 

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Besides agreeing with your points on Algeria-related rumors, I still see no benefit for India in extending it's support to the military juntas. Once the current "nationalist" euphoria dies down, the general public will realize that they have been duped once again.

We can be transactional, just like we are with the current Taliban regime (Iran, Myanmar are other examples) without getting too involved.
I don't know nor care about Niger, it is their business and don't think govt does too

We must not become like the West
Let nations decide their own fate , for good or bad , their country, their business

Ironically we can't till date stop the West from interfering in own country and so at the least best stay neutral on the efforts of others
 
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I don't know nor care about Niger, it is their business and don't think govt does too

We must not become like the West
Let nations decide their own fate , for good or bad , their country, their business

Ironically we can't till date stop the West from interfering in own country and so at the least best stay neutral on the efforts of others
We do interfere in other countries' internal matters if and when needed to serve and protect our interests. Indian role has been suspected in the Labor party's defeats on closely contested seats during the last UK elections. Canada has been complaining about the Indian interference as well. India has an impact over electoral outcomes in democracies having a significant number of Indian diaspora.

Staying neutral is a matter of past, India is acting according to it's new geopolitical standing.

India among top actors for foreign interference in Canada: national security adviser
Concerns over ‘foreign interference’ as India-linked Hindu nationalist group targets Labour candidates
 

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We do interfere in other countries' internal matters if and when needed to serve and protect our interests. Indian role has been suspected in the Labor party's defeats on closely contested seats during the last UK elections. Canada has been complaining about the Indian interference as well. India has an impact over electoral outcomes in democracies having a significant number of Indian diaspora.

Staying neutral is a matter of past, India is acting according to it's new geopolitical standing.

India among top actors for foreign interference in Canada: national security adviser
Concerns over ‘foreign interference’ as India-linked Hindu nationalist group targets Labour candidates
Somethings are implicitly obvious , and importantly expected to be understood

When i said that We must not become like the West, it is naturally expected that quid pro quo is applicable ie I don't flark you if you don't flark me , but if you flark me I will double flark you

How is the issue even relevant regarding countries like Niger
 
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