The Syrian Crisis

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It looks like having a base in one country to deter another country means you will have to kiss ass of at least one country.

Can Turkey realistically capture US nuclear weapons? This will be a serious incident.

If Turkey ends up with 50 nuclear weapons, it will be on par with Britain. Actually, more powerful than Britain because Britain needs US permission to use its Tridents.

It looks like US nuclear weapons in Turkey is supposed to be a secret:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/trump-us-nuclear-weapons-turkey/index.html
They couldn't use them if they captured them, the bombs are missing their detonators which are kept offsite just in case something like that happened.
 

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Turkey can get nukes from Pakistan. If Chinese allow that.
And to destroy NATO Chinese can do that
After all there Idiotic president is now mum about Chinese MUZZIES.
 

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Turkey can get nukes from Pakistan. If Chinese allow that.
And to destroy NATO Chinese can do that
After all there Idiotic president is now mum about Chinese MUZZIES.
The question is how committed are Chinese in weakening NATO! We have not seen any action from China that can be construed anti-NATO.
 

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The question is how committed are Chinese in weakening NATO! We have not seen any action from China that can be construed anti-NATO.
Chinese debt on Italy. Italy is part of belt and road initiative and is getting Chinese investments for infrastructure.
Chinese military basis in Africa are close American one's.
Chinese biggest enemy is US top dog of nato.
Chinese aim to finish this world order and build a new one.
(which eventually india wants too we support MULTIPOLAR world not protectionist world of NATO.)
And seeing Chinese track record in arming NK to keep Americans in check. And supplying nukes to piggs. For them a unstable Nato is easy to Crack in.

Chinese are much more furious enemy then soviets ever were.
And fun fact one of the major technology provider to pakis for nukes was turkey. So Pakistani-turkey nuclear collaboration is major part of there relationship. Getting nukes is not a big deal but using them is.
 

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Chinese debt on Italy. Italy is part of belt and road initiative and is getting Chinese investments for infrastructure.
Chinese military basis in Africa are close American one's.
Chinese biggest enemy is US top dog of nato.
Chinese aim to finish this world order and build a new one.
(which eventually india wants too we support MULTIPOLAR world not protectionist world of NATO.)
And seeing Chinese track record in arming NK to keep Americans in check. And supplying nukes to piggs. For them a unstable Nato is easy to Crack in.

Chinese are much more furious enemy then soviets ever were.
And fun fact one of the major technology provider to pakis for nukes was turkey. So Pakistani-turkey nuclear collaboration is major part of there relationship. Getting nukes is not a big deal but using them is.
Turkey - Pakistan nuclear partnership is interesting. I do not think it has ever been reported. Are you suggesting that Turkey too has AQ Khan maal?

I was under the impression that U.S. and France were the only independent nuke owners in NATO.
 

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Turkey - Pakistan nuclear partnership is interesting. I do not think it has ever been reported. Are you suggesting that Turkey too has AQ Khan maal?

I was under the impression that U.S. and France were the only independent nuke owners in NATO.
Turkey has aspired to develop a civilian nuclear program for the supply of electrical power. Turkey imports most of its energy in the form of fuels and gas, and nuclear energy could provide this country with energy independence. This is the point where concerns regarding a possible military program emerge. A 2014 report on a German website, based on estimates by the German intelligence service, claimed that Turkey was adopting the Iranian model – a civilian nuclear program on the surface, with a military program underneath it, quite literally.

The Turkish Atomic Energy Commission (TAEC) was established in 1956 for the purpose of engaging in the development of nuclear reactors for the supply of electricity and for research purposes. In 1961, Turkey's first nuclear research center (CNRTC – Cekmece Nuclear Research & Training Center) was established. A year later, a 1-megawatt reactor was built at the center. In 1966, a second research center, ANRTC, (Ankara Nuclear Research & Training Center) was established. Both research centers worked on a program that involved the establishment of a heavy water based nuclear reactor with an output of 300-400 megawatts. This program never materialized. Later programs involved the establishment of reactors at Akkuyu Bay and Sinop.

All of these programs were halted following the military coup in Turkey in 1980. After the coup, the USA raised suspicions that Turkey was helping Pakistan acquire nuclear know-how. At that time, NATO had stopped the Pakistani uranium enrichment program, and the latter turned to Turkey for assistance. Suspicions were voiced by the USA to the effect that Turkey was providing Pakistan with nuclear materials that had the potential of being developed for use in nuclear weapons. The USA even suspected that Turkey was helping Pakistan enrich uranium. At the same time, Greece, too, accused Turkey of developing nuclear weapons.

The nuclear link between Turkey and Pakistan goes back to Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan, the father of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons programme, who was found to have sold thousands of centrifuges to Iran, North Korea, Libya and possibly others between 1987 and 2002. Khan’s network offered buyers a menu of both technical expertise and the materials to make a bomb. The electronics parts of the centrifuges were from Turkey.

After the 1980 military coup in Turkey, the US had voiced suspicions about Turkey helping Pakistan acquire nuclear know-how. Many of the components used by Pakistan for its nuclear programme were smuggled via Turkey. In 1981, the US State Department, in a secret cable to its embassy in Ankara, had asked the Turkish government to end its secret shipments of nuclear weapon-making equipment to Pakistan. According to the cable, Turkish companies were re-routing American-made electric equipment, known as inverters, from Europe to Pakistan. Inverters transform electrical current to charge batteries and operate instruments and are used in nuclear plants.

The cable also suggested that Pakistan’s ruler General Zia ul Haq might have offered nuclear technology to Turkey in exchange for the transshipments. The cable also said that Pakistan was seeking technology and material to produce fuel for explosive devices. The US had then threatened to cancel its proposed military and economic aid to Islamabad. The Turkish government did not act on the US request and insisted that the inverters, which then cost $100,000 apiece, were not covered under existing export control regulations.

In a sign of their close ties, A.Q. Khan had even contemplated moving his entire illegal production capacity of centrifuges to Turkey. In 1998, then Pakistani prime minister Nawaz Sharif had offered Turkey a “nuclear partnership” on nuclear research. Turkey had also backed Pakistan’s nuclear programme. With this backdrop, it does not come as a surprise when intelligence services report that to this day there is a dynamic scientific exchange between both countries with their nuclear scientists secretly visiting each other’s facilities.

Copied this from two different websites one is Israeli based one is indian.
 

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If American nukes are removed from that Turkish Air Base there is a real chance of Erdogan developing his own nukes. Not because Turkey would somehow feel vulnerable without them but Erdogan is a narcissist who would consider it as a personal insult to him.
 

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Turkey has aspired to develop a civilian nuclear program for the supply of electrical power. Turkey imports most of its energy in the form of fuels and gas, and nuclear energy could provide this country with energy independence. This is the point where concerns regarding a possible military program emerge. A 2014 report on a German website, based on estimates by the German intelligence service, claimed that Turkey was adopting the Iranian model – a civilian nuclear program on the surface, with a military program underneath it, quite literally.

The Turkish Atomic Energy Commission (TAEC) was established in 1956 for the purpose of engaging in the development of nuclear reactors for the supply of electricity and for research purposes. In 1961, Turkey's first nuclear research center (CNRTC – Cekmece Nuclear Research & Training Center) was established. A year later, a 1-megawatt reactor was built at the center. In 1966, a second research center, ANRTC, (Ankara Nuclear Research & Training Center) was established. Both research centers worked on a program that involved the establishment of a heavy water based nuclear reactor with an output of 300-400 megawatts. This program never materialized. Later programs involved the establishment of reactors at Akkuyu Bay and Sinop.

All of these programs were halted following the military coup in Turkey in 1980. After the coup, the USA raised suspicions that Turkey was helping Pakistan acquire nuclear know-how. At that time, NATO had stopped the Pakistani uranium enrichment program, and the latter turned to Turkey for assistance. Suspicions were voiced by the USA to the effect that Turkey was providing Pakistan with nuclear materials that had the potential of being developed for use in nuclear weapons. The USA even suspected that Turkey was helping Pakistan enrich uranium. At the same time, Greece, too, accused Turkey of developing nuclear weapons.

The nuclear link between Turkey and Pakistan goes back to Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan, the father of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons programme, who was found to have sold thousands of centrifuges to Iran, North Korea, Libya and possibly others between 1987 and 2002. Khan’s network offered buyers a menu of both technical expertise and the materials to make a bomb. The electronics parts of the centrifuges were from Turkey.

After the 1980 military coup in Turkey, the US had voiced suspicions about Turkey helping Pakistan acquire nuclear know-how. Many of the components used by Pakistan for its nuclear programme were smuggled via Turkey. In 1981, the US State Department, in a secret cable to its embassy in Ankara, had asked the Turkish government to end its secret shipments of nuclear weapon-making equipment to Pakistan. According to the cable, Turkish companies were re-routing American-made electric equipment, known as inverters, from Europe to Pakistan. Inverters transform electrical current to charge batteries and operate instruments and are used in nuclear plants.

The cable also suggested that Pakistan’s ruler General Zia ul Haq might have offered nuclear technology to Turkey in exchange for the transshipments. The cable also said that Pakistan was seeking technology and material to produce fuel for explosive devices. The US had then threatened to cancel its proposed military and economic aid to Islamabad. The Turkish government did not act on the US request and insisted that the inverters, which then cost $100,000 apiece, were not covered under existing export control regulations.

In a sign of their close ties, A.Q. Khan had even contemplated moving his entire illegal production capacity of centrifuges to Turkey. In 1998, then Pakistani prime minister Nawaz Sharif had offered Turkey a “nuclear partnership” on nuclear research. Turkey had also backed Pakistan’s nuclear programme. With this backdrop, it does not come as a surprise when intelligence services report that to this day there is a dynamic scientific exchange between both countries with their nuclear scientists secretly visiting each other’s facilities.

Copied this from two different websites one is Israeli based one is indian.
Wow! There is a serious yarana between Turkey and Pakistan.
 

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Wow! There is a serious yarana between Turkey and Pakistan.
Muslim brotherhood.
Turkey thinks w Pakistan helped them when there was no one for them. When ottoman empire fall it was Muslims from indian sub continent which helped them by different means that's the reason why turkey feel it's it duty to support Pakistan.

Only Muslims countries have yarrana. Rest of the nations works on the basis of interests.

Pakistan till date have back from UK turkey China Sweden ( Saudi but they don't treat Pakistanis as equals)
 

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Muslim brotherhood.
Turkey thinks w Pakistan helped them when there was no one for them. When ottoman empire fall it was Muslims from indian sub continent which helped them by different means that's the reason why turkey feel it's it duty to support Pakistan.

Only Muslims countries have yarrana. Rest of the nations works on the basis of interests.

Pakistan till date have back from UK turkey China Sweden ( Saudi but they don't treat Pakistanis as equals)
I understand Chinese (adversary), UK (The Cartel) and Turkey (yarrana) compulsions but what the f*** have we done to Sweden? Why are Swedes pissing on our parade?
 

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I understand Chinese (adversary), UK (The Cartel) and Turkey (yarrana) compulsions but what the f*** have we done to Sweden? Why are Swedes pissing on our parade?
Muzzie Population is high in Swiss. There statements just after we removed articles 370 were absurd. They keep selling military equipments to pakis. They sold Awacs to pakis too.
We need to understand Muslim to the core are radical and toxic if one Muslim will suffer from the hands idol worshipping polytheism evil yindoo. They alll will come together.

Non the less Swiss support to pakis have something connected to there deep state.
 

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Muzzie Population is high in Swiss. There statements just after we removed articles 370 were absurd. They keep selling military equipments to pakis. They sold Awacs to pakis too.
We need to understand Muslim to the core are radical and toxic if one Muslim will suffer from the hands idol worshipping polytheism evil yindoo. They alll will come together.

Non the less Swiss support to pakis have something connected to there deep state.
I will do some research on Sweden. I have a feeling it has something to do with The Cartel. Usually countries that are controlled by The Cartel tend to be very anti-Hindu.

A while back I ran into a Brazilian guy in Kolkata. Some of the things that were coming out of his mouth about Indians made my head spin. That prompted me to do some research on Brazil and I found out that the country's media is pretty much all owned by The Cartel. And, Brazilian media constantly propagates derogatory view about Indians.
 

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I will do some research on Sweden. I have a feeling it has something to do with The Cartel. Usually countries that are controlled by The Cartel tend to be very anti-Hindu.

A while back I ran into a Brazilian guy in Kolkata. Some of the things that were coming out of his mouth about Indians made my head spin. That prompted me to do some research on Brazil and I found out that the country's media is pretty much all owned by The Cartel. And, Brazilian media constantly propagates derogatory view about Indians.
Please keep up the good work on your thread about Cartel......
 

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How would this Syrian crisis affect India? Any thoughts?
 

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How would this Syrian crisis affect India? Any thoughts?
If Syrians keep Turkey busy, it will be good. Once Syrians get hold of their oil and agree to sell some of it to India, It will be good. Hopefully, India will be moving towards electrification of automobiles so that oil will matter less. Last but not least, Syrian belly dancers are amazing. I hope once things calms down, some Syrian belly dance joints will open up in India.
 

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#BREAKING: Two days ago, #Turkey paid #OPCW €30,000 bribe to cover-up use of M110 155mm WP shells containing White Phosphorous against civilians by #Turkish Army T-155 Howitzers in Tell Abyad & #Serekaniye between 9 & 12 October. Video shows use of these shells on 12 October!

 

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The last hope leaves the investigation. Professor Postol gives up on correcting the
@OPCW
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23 #ISIS suspects with families, all Turkish nationals, were brought to #Turkey in border province Sanliurfa with the governor Abdullah Erin greeting them as they are being transported from #Syria. A total 195 #ISIS guys would come to Turkey.

 

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Turkish-backed armed groups threaten to behead any “infidel Kurd” they capture on their way to NE Syria. To all those who are worried that ISIS may come back. ISIS is already back to NE Syria with Turkish protection.
 

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