India-China Border conflict

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Integrating Bhutan within India will not work out. Only option for us is to pay them outright and buy land that the Chinese covet for strategic reasons.
Why will integrating Bhutan in the Indian Union not work out.. You are talking about IA manpower not being sufficient to guard Bhutan ?
We need 'Buffer States' between us (India) and China occupied Tibet. By maintaining this the land disputes will be between those countries and China only. Sikkim also functioned as a buffer state before it was merged with India.
 

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We need 'Buffer States' between us (India) and China occupied Tibet. By maintaining this the land disputes will be between those countries and China only. Sikkim also functioned as a buffer state before it was merged with India.
India did plan to subvert Bhutan late last century utilising the same methods it did to take Sikkim by getting the Nepalis there to settle in numbers & outnumber the local population except the Bhutanese establishment saw thru it & expelled the Nepalis en masse.

That's one theory the other was the Bhutanese were being tremendously slack in expelling ULFA , Bodo & other militants sheltering there which is why the Indian establishment resorted to this ruse .

I'm veering around to the second explanation given the recent resurgence of calls by certain Nepali groups for reverting the state to a Hindu nation & revival of the monarchy given the massive inroads Maoists & communists have made within the body politic of Nepal & brought with it the baleful intervention of the Chinese with it .

Having said that under the current circumstances we need Nepal & Bhutan as a buffer . I'd argue for the same even if Tibet became an independent country with a closed economic bloc comprising exclusively of India Tibet Nepal & Bhutan with no visa required for travel as is the case today for travel between India & Nepal or Bhutan & ease of residence & work for its citizens in either country as it does exist today between India & Nepal .
 

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The genesis of the Indo Chinese dispute where the absence of any prior diplomatic experience on the part of the establishment of newly independent India as compared to both - the Kuomintang & the CCP & Nehru's impulsiveness is well explained by Vijay Gokhale ex FS though he tries his best to dampen criticism .
 

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We need 'Buffer States' between us (India) and China occupied Tibet. By maintaining this the land disputes will be between those countries and China only. Sikkim also functioned as a buffer state before it was merged with India.
An independent buffer state can be both advantageous and disadvantageous for the larger neighbor.

When Doklam happened, I didn't see the usual outrage from the West. It was expected that India man up, preserve Bhutanese territory and send a tough message across to China. It worked imo.

When shit hits the fan, major powers can either come to your rescue or happily facilitate your downfall/look the other way.

Israel despite being a Jewish state has the backing of the West, the most influential being the US.

Armenia despite being a Christian nation got thrown to the Islamic hyenas. Different worlds or different policies.
 

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Can someone explain what bakchodi is Sonam wangchuk up to?
Crying for a Lok Sabha ticket from Congress IMO.
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"I will persist in my efforts for constitutional protections for Ladakh and the political rights of its people," stated Mr. Wangchuk as he brought his hunger strike to a close.

“We do not wish to view PM Modi and Amit Shah merely as politicians, but rather as statesmen; however, for that, they must exhibit integrity and foresight,” he added.
 

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Can someone explain what bakchodi is Sonam wangchuk up to?
Crying for a Lok Sabha ticket from Congress IMO.
Real motive behind statehood protest was to force GoI to classify Ladakh as a tribal state just like some states of NE with special powers.

Soon after this happens there will be demand for restoring ILP.

Than the next step after granting seperate statehood will be to classify Ladakh as a seperate Buddhist state just like Mizoram consider itself a Christian state in its govt day to day communication and documents.

This is the game plan as far as I can speculate. Sonam Wangchuk here is acting as an useful idiot.


This was after becoming UT
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half training / half psyops

most likely this will be the mod of invasion , if it ever happens .
China has made scaled down versions of all major world cities on the deserts of Inner Mongolia.
 

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Can someone explain what bakchodi is Sonam wangchuk up to?
Crying for a Lok Sabha ticket from Congress IMO.
Instead of integrating with India, he wants Ladakh to be given "special status" and have tribal laws which bars Indians from other states from buying land & opening businesses.

While I understand his concerns (saving Ladakh, ecology, etc.), his way of doing it is not correct. Also this is a very dangerous line of thinking that "we wuz espesal" and breeds secessionist mentality going forward in locals.

Given the vulnerability of Ladakh, any form of democratic govt. in Ladakh will 100% be utilized to sow anti-India movements in Ladakh. Infact it cannot be ruled out Sonam Wangchuk is already a Chinese sellout.
 

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Instead of integrating with India, he wants Ladakh to be given "special status" and have tribal laws which bars Indians from other states from buying land & opening businesses.

While I understand his concerns (saving Ladakh, ecology, etc.), his way of doing it is not correct. Also this is a very dangerous line of thinking that "we wuz espesal" and breeds secessionist mentality going forward in locals.

Given the vulnerability of Ladakh, any form of democratic govt. in Ladakh will 100% be utilized to sow anti-India movements in Ladakh. Infact it cannot be ruled out Sonam Wangchuk is already a Chinese sellout.
Give them a meter and they come for a mile.....no kindness ever returns the favor in kaliyug but using danda will. Kick the ass and make an example to respect sacred lines. There are other ways to protect locals not getting dumped on by outsiders
 

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