Trudeau accuses Indian government of involvement in killing of Canadian terrorist

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Canadian pappu gets retort in his own language- if imaginary Indian killing Canadians on Canadian soil is foreign interference so is Canadians conspiring to partion india in Canadian soil.

"Terming the pro-Khalistan extremists in Canada as foreigners since they hold Canadian citizenship as India doesn't allow dual citizenship, Mr Verma said, "The foreigners having an evil eye on the territorial integrity of India. That is a big red line for India."

 

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While the gist of the story is true, it is, as usual written with a slant.

Capt.Amarinder Singh is referred to as India's minister for the Punjab, to detract from the fact that he was the highest ranking elected official in the state & belonged (then) to the opposition party. Could be better described as equivalent to their Premiers of provinces.

The story they say is also slightly different from what happened. Capt. Amrinder Singh had refused to meet Canada's Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan earlier on a separate visit saying that he was a Khalistani supporter. Trudeau wanted to retaliate by not meeting with Amrinder Singh on his visit. GoI told him firmly that protocol demands that he meets with the CM of a state he was visiting & if he didn't want to meet the Punjab CM, he as at liberty to pick any other Indian state to visit but he wont be allowed to go to Punjab without agreeing to meet Capt.Amrinder Singh.
 

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The Indian EAM did not suggest laxity, he said that they are allowing. The minister here confirms no laxity, thereby leaving only the conclusion of deliberate intent.
my usual process before forming an opinion on any country, is spending time ( weeks or months depending on size and complexity of the country ) watching the country as is (as opposed to news headlines tracking), to get to know how that country's systems operate.

same was done on canada a few years ago, one peculiar thing about canadian politics is that their ministers almost never give a straight answer even in their own internal matters, not in their parliament not in their press briefing, and trudeau's govt takes this to another level. brits too do this during tough situations, but with trudeau, it's disaster after disaster after disaster in their policy and governance, so his govt and ministers are permanently in crisis aversion mode.

if their opposition is not able elicit a coherent answer sitting across the aisle, no chance GoI is going to get any useful answer from them.

In canadian politics, words have no meaning at all.

this is for english speaking section of canada, don't know how french speaking section operates.
 

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Every western media is anti-India. Period. We shouldn't expect a free pass nor will we get it. Nobody is about to hand over the keys to a corner office just like that.
Brought out the example of France because...In West only France govt seems to be in stable relationship with current Indian govt.

France gov- Ok with India, Their Media- Not Ok
US gov- Not Ok with India, Their Media- neither
UK gov- Not Ok with India, Their Media- neither
Canada gov- Not Ok with India, Their Media- neither
Germany gov- Not Ok with India, Their Media- neither
 

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Brought out the example of France because...In West only France govt seems to be in stable relationship with current Indian govt.

France gov- Ok with India, Their Media- Not Ok
US gov- Not Ok with India, Their Media- neither
UK gov- Not Ok with India, Their Media- neither
Canada gov- Not Ok with India, Their Media- neither
Germany gov- Not Ok with India, Their Media- neither
English media in France and Germany are anti-India.
In their native languages too? I haven’t checked.
 

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English media in France and Germany are anti-India.
In their native languages too? I haven’t checked.
Yes.
Coverage however is less, local language focused on local country/area reporting, not on foreign countries.
However any India articles you do see will have an anti-India slant no different from English editions
 

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.lelis have near monopoly over media worldwide.

.French media anti macron in France, us media anti Biden/Trump based on the season.

.a good percentage of Indian media was anti Modi , some had gharwapsi like ndtv.

.media also caters to their trp/ circulation and also acts under quixotic leli ideals.

If someone knows how Western media as a whole reported Chinese from 1976 to 2001 it would be a good academic exercise.
 

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why is that considering we have excellent governmental relations?
It is either because we don't attach good PR coverage from French media outlets as a part of "good relations with the French state".
Or the French don't have control over the media for international matters.

To prove/disprove this theory we might have to check the coverage and slant of China related issues from French media.

Anyway in the entire Thana of Bad Cops that is the West, France is the only Good Cop, but France too is a little (((cop))) nonetheless.
 

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It is either because we don't attach good PR coverage from French media outlets as a part of "good relations with the French state".
Or the French don't have control over the media for international matters.

To prove/disprove this theory we might have to check the coverage and slant of China related issues from French media.

Anyway in the entire Thana of Bad Cops that is the West, France is the only Good Cop, but France too is a little (((cop))) nonetheless.
One thing I have noticed in the US is, the media would mostly ignore India in the past. If they did talk about India, it would be mostly negative but peppered with some positive reporting once in a while. Yes they did talk about Chnadrayana with grudged admiration. They never liked Modi but it never got too rabid.

However, after India's refusal to completely back the West and ostracize Russia triggered off a new level of anti-India, anti-government tirade. Now the media is directly targeting the Modi government with an agenda to paint him as evil. Anything positive about India is not reported. Negative news is invented and magnified multiple times when anything is reported about India.

The story on Pannu is not as much talked about in the US as in Canada.
 

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One thing I have noticed in the US is, the media would mostly ignore India in the past. If they did talk about India, it would be mostly negative but peppered with some positive reporting once in a while. Yes they did talk about Chnadrayana with grudged admiration. They never liked Modi but it never got too rabid.

However, after India's refusal to completely back the West and ostracize Russia triggered off a new level of anti-India, anti-government tirade. Now the media is directly targeting the Modi government with an agenda to paint him as evil. Anything positive about India is not reported. Negative news is invented and magnified multiple times when anything is reported about India.

The story on Pannu is not as much talked about in the US as in Canada.
Partly how the US media has always been but also now taken over by an extreme left "liberal" mob. They behave that way towards most Republicans even. No real chance of a change now.
 

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We don't need Canada and with BJP govt back at helm, they just might find themselves at the wrong end of a trade war.

India is pushing back at US as well, sometimes very openly last few years.

The message to US seems to be, 'we need you, so will tolerate your shit for now'.
but with Canada and other countries, it's a very direct message being sent.

Canada and US have been losing global power very fast.
Even their threats don't matter a bit. They are in no position to do anything significant to India without US help. They know they have been gauged and their false bravado exposed.
 

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We don't need Canada and with BJP govt back at helm, they just might find themselves at the wrong end of a trade war.

India is pushing back at US as well, sometimes very openly last few years.

The message to US seems to be, 'we need you, so will tolerate your shit for now'.
but with Canada and other countries, it's a very direct message being sent.

Canada and US have been losing global power very fast.
Even their threats don't matter a bit. They are in no position to do anything significant to India without US help. They know they have been gauged and their false bravado exposed.
No Trade war.. GoI is making sure canadians get this message, they are isolating the problem areas in the relation from the working parts.

this is from a few days ago..

India-Canada relationship strained by Nijjar murder, High Commissioner implies
 

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